New Orleans Rhythm Kings take verifications directly from the Gennett 78s
For
takes on CDs: “NEW ORLEANS RHYTHM KINGS 1922-1923” on Classics #1129
and “NEW ORLEANS RHYTHM KINGS 1922 - 1925 The Complete Set” on
Retrieval 79031 (2 CDs)
A few years ago, I noticed a few discrepancies on take
identifications between the Classics CD (catalog number 1129) and the more
comprehensive CD set on Retrieval (catalog number 79031). I’ll bet that there are just two or three
cases of take ID conflicts between the two sets, but it remains a substantive
concern due to the importance of this music. A comparison of the takes on
Classics 1129, “NEW ORLEANS RHYTHM KINGS 1922-1923", with the two volumes
on Lp on CJM (Classic Jazz Masters CJM 12 & CJM 13), NORK: New Orleans
Rhythm Kings Volume 1 1922 – 23 and NORK: New Orleans Rhythm Kings Volume
2 1923, lead strongly to the conclusion
that any mistakes on take identification are only on the Retrieval 79031,
“NEW ORLEANS RHYTHM KINGS 1922 - 1925 The Complete Set”. But a
complete analysis is prevented as only the Retrieval 79031 has all known takes, while the Classics 1129 has
only one take even for tunes when known additional takes could presumably have
been included. [Classics used only one take even when the initial and/or master
take is uncertain.]
Any extra takes, of course, are derived from the original Gennett
78s. it became clear to me that comprehensive take verification for any reissue
requires comparison with those original releases on Gennett.
My original releases of New Orleans Rhythm Kings (aka Friars
Society Orchestra for August 29 & 30, 1922) are limited to the following.
I’ve included take verification from the Gennett 78 even when only
one take is known.
AUGUST 29 & 30, 1922
Eccentric 11178B = 1129
Farewell Blues 11179C = 1129
Discontented Blues 11180A = 1129
Bugle Call Rag 11181B = 1129
Panama 11882B = 1129
Tiger Rag 11183C = 1129
Oriental 11185 = 1129
MARCH 12 & 13, 1923
That’s A Plenty 11353A = 79031 CD One Track 10
Shimmeshawabble 11354 = 1129 = 79031 CD One Track 11 - 79031
MISLABELED!!
11354 is listed as 11354B ON 79031
That Da Da Strain 11356 = 1129
Tin Roof Blues 11359 = 1129 = 79031 CD Two Track 13
Tin Roof Blues 11359A = 79031 CD One Track 16
Tin Roof Blues 11359B = 79031 CD Two Track 14
JULY 17 & 18, 1923
Marguerite 11536A = 1129
Milenberg Joys 11551C = 79031 CD One Track 23
Any other conflicts on takes between the Classic CD and the double
CD on Retrieval hasn’t as yet be verified against the 78s by me.
by Phil Schaap
